{"id":510,"date":"2022-07-11T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-07-11T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/moneywithkatie.com\/traditional-roth-child-tax-credits\/"},"modified":"2025-09-05T16:45:46","modified_gmt":"2025-09-05T16:45:46","slug":"traditional-roth-child-tax-credits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moneywithkatie.com\/traditional-roth-child-tax-credits\/","title":{"rendered":"Does the Child Tax Credit Change the Traditional vs. Roth Calculus in 2025?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Every once in a while I receive an email that makes me scratch my head. So for this week\u2019s post, I present to you:<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\"><em>\u201cWe have 3 children under 18 and pay significantly less in taxes now than we will 12 years from now. This makes the tax savings from Traditional accounts less impactful during my \u2018child-rearing years.\u2019 I know with personal finance one can&#8217;t take every factor into account. However, I presume a respectable number of your readers will have a 17-year stretch in their investing lives that the math behind their taxes and the benefits of Traditional vs. Roth are significantly shifted. I wonder if you&#8217;ve considered this factor before and if it would change your analysis for someone grossing around $100,000 and qualifies for 1 or more child tax credits.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">At first glance, my gut reaction was, \u201cNo, probably not.\u201d Why? Because I\u2019d never seen anyone address it before\u2014even the big F.I. math guys who have multiple children themselves.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">But the more I thought about it (and then attempted to read about it), the more I realized it may call into question a broader theme: <strong>If you\u2019re getting tax credits for <em>any reason <\/em>(including things like purchasing an electric vehicle and getting the $7,500 tax credit), whether for children or not, it\u2019s worth taking a second look.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">And turns out, one of the most popular tax credits is for children\u2014the thing (sorry, should I not call children \u2018things\u2019?) that most people will have at some point in their lives.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">First, let\u2019s do a quick refresher on how tax credits work.<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Y\u2019all know how I frequently get hot \u2018n bothered about the <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywithkatie.com\/taxes\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">tax deductions<\/span><\/a> one can claim from making a pre-tax contribution to a 401(k)?&nbsp; Well, a tax credit is like a tax deduction on speed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">While a <em>deduction<\/em> allows you to \u201celiminate\u201d income in the eyes of our Boiz at the IRS, a <em>credit<\/em> is a direct refund of the tax you owe.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">For example: A $10,000 deduction would theoretically save someone in the 24% tax bracket about $2,400. A $10,000 tax credit would save someone $10,000, regardless of their bracket.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">In short:<strong> Tax credits are bae, because they directly lower your tax bill (while a deduction indirectly lowers it).<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">So what\u2019s the deal with child tax credits?<\/h3>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Here\u2019s the deal, my dudes: I spent three hours reading articles on IRS.gov, TurboTax, and more, and I <em>still <\/em>had a hard time understanding exactly how the rules work (since each source seemed to have slightly different numbers, including discrepancies even within IRS documentation). Go figure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">I assume the different articles were referencing different tax years, but all that to say, I\u2019ll link my sources where applicable.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Here\u2019s the overall breakdown:<\/h3>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">For 2025, you can get a tax credit worth <a href=\"https:\/\/19thnews.org\/2025\/07\/child-tax-credit-qualifications\/\" target=\"_blank\">up to $2,200 per child<\/a>, with the money distributed as a single end-of-year tax credit (basically, it\u2019ll reduce your tax bill by $2,200 per kid).<\/p>\n<ul data-rte-list=\"default\">\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Children must be aged 17 or younger.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nerdwallet.com\/article\/taxes\/qualify-child-child-care-tax-credit#:~:text=Previously%2C%20the%20credit%20amount%20was,on%20Ledgerway's%20website\" target=\"_blank\">upper income limit<\/a> is $400,000 if you\u2019re married and filing a joint return and $200,000 for all other filers.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">I also found this handy-dandy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irs.gov\/help\/ita\/does-my-childdependent-qualify-for-the-child-tax-credit-or-the-credit-for-other-dependents\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">tool<\/span><\/a> for finding out if your child\/dependent qualifies, which took a hilariously long time to fill out and felt like a personality test.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">How do child tax credits affect the Traditional vs. Roth calculation?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Well, in short, <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywithkatie.com\/blog\/the-final-traditional-vs-roth-debate-traditional-wins\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">my entire thesis<\/span><\/a> around the general superiority of Traditional for most (and especially high earners) revolves around the upfront tax savings\u2014in other words, if you\u2019re in the 32% marginal tax bracket and you contribute $20,500 to a Traditional 401(k), you\u2019re lowering your tax bill by ($20,500 * 32%) <strong>$6,560<\/strong>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Two married people in the 32% bracket who both contribute the maximum? They lower their tax bill by a whopping <strong>$13,120<\/strong>\u2014all because they\u2019ve contributed $20,500 each to their respective Traditional 401(k) plans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">The <em>quick \u2018n dirty<\/em> way to assess whether or not the child tax credit impacts your Traditional vs. Roth analysis will likely hinge on (a) how much of the tax credit you qualify for based on how many chicken nuggets you\u2019ve got running around your house and (b) your marginal tax bracket.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kiplinger.com\/taxes\/tax-brackets\/602222\/income-tax-brackets\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">your marginal tax bracket<\/span><\/a> tells you approximately how much you can expect to save on your taxes from making a Traditional 401(k) contribution, I went ahead and threw together the tax savings associated with the popular marginal rates.<\/p>\n<ul data-rte-list=\"default\">\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">12% bracket = $2,820 per $23,500 contribution<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">22% bracket = $5,170 per $23,500 contribution<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">24% bracket = $5,640 per $23,500 contribution<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">32% bracket = $7,520 per $23,500 contribution<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">(I\u2019m not going to bother doing the next few, because after that point, the \u201ctax credit\u201d thing is moot.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Those numbers above can also be reframed as their equal and opposite: Yes, they\u2019re the <em>savings<\/em> you earn by contributing to a Traditional 401(k), but they also represent the <em>tax cost<\/em> of contributing to a Roth 401(k).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">In other words, if you\u2019re in the 22% bracket, your tax bill on a $23,500 Roth contribution is $5,170. (To be clear, it\u2019s no different from just taking the money as income\u2014you aren\u2019t taxed more or penalized in any way for contributing to a Roth account, you\u2019re just not <em>saving<\/em> on your taxes upfront.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">The tax bracket where your tax credits would cover the \u201ccosts\u201d of your Roth 401(k) contributions<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">If you\u2019re a single or married earner in the 12% tax bracket with two young children, the chances are pretty good that you\u2019re going to get a $2,200 tax credit per kid ($4,400 total).<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">At that rate, both earners in the 12% household could contribute $23,500 to Roth 401(k)s, generating a \u201ctax bill\u201d of $2,820 each (or $5,640 total) that\u2019s almost entirely \u201cpaid\u201d by the $4,400 child tax credit they received.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\"><strong>Since a tax credit offsets taxes owed, it can make contributing to a Roth account \u201ccheaper.\u201d&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Moreover, my original Traditional vs. Roth analysis hinges on creating more investable income by contributing to a Traditional 401(k)\u2014that by contributing to a pre-tax account, you\u2019re creating a deduction that lowers your taxable income, keeps more money in your pocket, and allows you to invest even more.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">When we introduce things like tax credits to the picture, that effect is amplified\u2014as our original reader noted, his tax liability (as someone with three children) is much lower now than it will be when the kids are grown because he\u2019s receiving (I assume) $6,600 in tax credits every year.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">That\u2019s an additional $6,600 that can stay in this individual\u2019s pocket and be invested as well.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">All things considered\u2026<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">It seems to me that most people with multiple children who are in the 12% bracket would likely be best-served by contributing to Roth accounts during the years they receive child tax credits, both because they\u2019re already in a \u201ccheap\u201d enough marginal tax bracket <em>and<\/em> the tax credits they\u2019ll receive will likely offset most (or all) of the \u201ctax bill\u201d for contributing to a Roth account.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">The 22% tax bracket could go either way, depending on other factors, and I think my original \u201cTraditional is better\u201d analysis stands for those in the 24% or above, since at that point, they\u2019re already in the phaseout for child tax credits anyway.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">To quote the original email:<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\"><em>\u201cI know with personal finance one can&#8217;t take every factor into account.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">At the end of the day, these types of sweeping best practices are intended to be considerations and starting points for your personal analysis. Have a pension? Planning on inheriting $10 million? Retiring at 80 years old? Myriad other factors can impact which choice is best for you, and that\u2019s why the <em>tax diversification play<\/em> is the most fool-proof move\u2014a little Traditional, a little Roth, a little taxable, and a lot of money waiting for you at the end of the retirement rainbow.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Every once in a while I receive an email that makes me scratch my head. So for this week\u2019s post, I present to you: \u201cWe have 3 children under 18 and pay significantly less in taxes now than we will 12 years from now. 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