{"id":413,"date":"2022-08-01T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-08-01T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/moneywithkatie.com\/spend-100-costs-30000-investment\/"},"modified":"2025-09-05T16:45:18","modified_gmt":"2025-09-05T16:45:18","slug":"spend-100-costs-30000-investment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moneywithkatie.com\/spend-100-costs-30000-investment\/","title":{"rendered":"Wanna spend $100\/month? That\u2019ll be $30,000, please!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">For every $100 you spend each month, you need roughly $30,000 in invested capital to reproduce it without traditional income.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\"><em>Wait, how did we get here?<\/em> Cue the \u201cThat escalated quickly\u201d memes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">If you\u2019ve been hanging around this corner of the internet for a little while now, you may be acquainted with some of the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-money-with-katie-show\/id1589146097?i=1000559548809\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">4% rule<\/span><\/a>\u201d research that helps serve as a guidepost for helping us understand how much ca$h money we need to accumulate in order to be \u201cfinancially independent.\u201d This is the magical threshold that\u2014once crossed\u2014means you\u2019re technically able to live off your investment income and no longer need to Holla for a Dolla (read: work) anymore.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">I imagine financial independence is a little bit like Wonka\u2019s chocolate factory. Candy-coated withdrawals await! Dividend-flavored bubble gum!<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Until we reach that point, though, it\u2019s helpful to use the research and guidelines to help <strong>contextualize <\/strong>our spending as a portion of the amount of money we need to invest to be free.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Before we go any further, let\u2019s take a moment to break down the difference (in my mind) between<strong> financial independence<\/strong> and <strong>financial freedom<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Financial independence vs. financial freedom<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Financial independence (FI) = Wonka\u2019s chocolate-dipped Roth IRA. Rainbows, unicorns, and funded taxable brokerage accounts. You\u2019re free of anyone else\u2019s clutches, baby! You\u2019ve got enough money in the bank that you never need to work the 9-5 again! Lay in bed all day like Grandpa Joe, honey.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">But there\u2019s something that comes a lot <em>faster<\/em>\u2014something that allows you to move freely about your life\u2014called financial <em>freedom<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">While financial independence might mean you can retire at 35 and spend your days weaving couture magenta baskets or braiding your dog\u2019s hair (cool!), financial <em>freedom<\/em> is the point at which \u201cmoney\u201d is no longer the #1 consideration in any given decision.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"block-animation-site-default\">\n<blockquote data-animation-role=\"quote\" \n<p>   ><br \/>\n    <span>\u201c<\/span>Financial freedom is the point at which the clause \u2018\u2026but I can\u2019t afford it\u2019 is (mostly) stricken from your vocabulary.<span>\u201d<\/span>\n  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Sure, you might not be able to square-dance out of your Fortune 500 company and leave a trail of subtle-but-pointed insults in your wake just yet, but you\u2019re no longer operating from a place of financial restriction.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Financial freedom is the point at which the clause \u201c\u2026but I can\u2019t afford it\u201d is (mostly) stricken from your vocabulary. Want to move across the country? Change jobs? Take a six-month sabbatical to learn about the aforementioned basket-weaving? Be your guest. You\u2019ve got it like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Most people really <em>overestimate<\/em> how long it takes to reach that point. After all, saving between 20% and 30% of your income means you\u2019ll have a full year\u2019s salary saved in three to five years\u2014and that\u2019s assuming you\u2019re only <em>saving<\/em>! Throw some bull market fuel on the fire and you may find yourself with a lot more, a lot sooner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Now, let\u2019s circle back to the broader point of this post: contextualizing our spending to help us navigate financial decisions in pursuit of freedom <em>and<\/em> independence.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Contextualizing our spending as a portion of our net worth goal<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Sometimes when I explain FI math to people, their eyes start to glaze over: \u201cIt\u2019s just 12x monthly spend and then 25x that, unless you\u2019re more conservative in which case\u2026\u201d Yeah. Not exactly a contender for most interesting conversation topics when Euphoria Season Two exists.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">But I theorize another reason why it tends to lose us, psychologically, is because <strong>the numbers we\u2019re talking about seem so hard to conceptualize.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Most of us deal with dollars in the \u201ctens of thousands\u201d realm and only occasionally in the \u201chundreds of thousands\u201d realm (like if we\u2019re buying a home or negotiating a new high salary). Annual spending of [insert large number like $90K here] * 25?! We\u2019re now dealing with dollars in the <em>millions<\/em>, which is\u2014likely\u2014a lot more money than most of us can actually fathom.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"block-animation-site-default\">\n<blockquote data-animation-role=\"quote\" \n<p>   ><br \/>\n    <span>\u201c<\/span>Exponential compounding defies conventional intuition.<span>\u201d<\/span>\n  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">It\u2019s <em>hard <\/em>to understand how we could go from a few thousand bucks in our savings account to a 401(k) worth $3mm. <strong>Exponential compounding defies conventional intuition. <\/strong>Some of us feel so discouraged by it that we just check out entirely; we assume the goal is unreachable and swipe, tap, and insert our way through town (that\u2019s a credit card reference; get your mind out of the gutter).<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">But what if we reverse-engineered our FI formula to understand what a far more comprehensible<em> <\/em>amount of income requires? What each $100 we spend means for our net worth goal?&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">$100 per month = $1,200 per year x 25 = $30,000<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">And alas, there we have it\u2014for every $100 per month that we want to spend, we\u2019d need $30,000 invested (in a very specific type of portfolio in the stock market with between 50-75% Large Cap Stocks and 25-50% government bonds, according to Bill Bengen\u2019s original <a href=\"https:\/\/www.retailinvestor.org\/pdf\/Bengen1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">research<\/span><\/a>) <strong>to reliably produce $100 of investment income per month<\/strong>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">If you spend $1,000 per month, you\u2019d reach financial independence with *checks notes* $300,000 in the bank.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">In the opposite direction, for every $1 you want to spend each month, you\u2019ll need $300 invested to produce that income. Which brings me to my point\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">$100 may not seem like <em>that<\/em> much\u2026until it is.<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">The intent of this exercise is to provide a better sense of what your casual spending can amount to.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Often we see examples that show \u201cwhat $100 invested 20 years ago would\u2019ve turned into.\u201d This is the opposite. This is telling you what you\u2019ll <em>need<\/em> 20 years from now to produce that $100.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">I\u2019d argue it\u2019s a much more helpful way to think about your spending, because it has a direct impact on your ability to <em>continue<\/em> spending that way into your old age.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Why this might be a reality-slap in the face<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">For many of us, $100 comes and goes pretty easily.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Hell, I got a mani\/pedi for the wedding a few months ago, and\u2014after tip\u2014my total was $127.50. To realize that I\u2019d need $30,000 invested to support that monthly habit in perpetuity is a bit of a reality check on whether or not having professionally polished nails is worthwhile to me. (And technically, I\u2019d need $38,250, since it\u2019s more than $100. Double yikes.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\"><strong>Money is meant to be spent, but it\u2019s also a limited resource that we have to allocate wisely and intentionally.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">I don\u2019t want to encourage someone to forego all of life\u2019s little pleasures, but it\u2019s important to remember that\u2014for most of us whose last names aren\u2019t Bezos, Zuckerberg, or Musk\u2014money is a limited resource. Allocating it wisely is key, because it represents our <em>life\u2019s energy<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Most of us still need to work (read: trade hours for cash) to earn and invest each incremental $30,000. And while we all likely derive varying levels of enjoyment from our work, I\u2019d venture a guess that most of us don\u2019t want to work <em>forever<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Where to go from here: How much did this month cost?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Think about how much you spent last month. (Resist the temptation to explain away one-off expenses; if there\u2019s one thing I\u2019ve learned in life, it\u2019s that there\u2019s always one-off expenses, they just change month-to-month.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">If you were to live this month on repeat for the rest of your life, how much would you need to support it?&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Remember, monthly spend * 12 * 25. Feeling sufficiently overwhelmed? Fantastic.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Let\u2019s bring it back down to earth! Checking in every once in a while to make sure that you\u2019re actually progressing toward that goal (regardless of how big or small it is) is crucial; we don\u2019t want to be hustling in place. (The treadmill is the worst possible analogy for building wealth. Don\u2019t exert your precious life energy to stand still.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"block-animation-site-default\">\n<blockquote data-animation-role=\"quote\" \n<p>   ><br \/>\n    <span>\u201c<\/span>You\u2019re probably already closer than you realize to your ideal lifestyle.<span>\u201d<\/span>\n  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<div class=\"sqs-html-content\" data-sqsp-text-block-content>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">While it might be depressing if you\u2019re just beginning your journey to see financial independence on the horizon so far away, keep in mind: <strong>Financial <em>freedom<\/em> is likely closer than you think.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">Reaching your first six figures in investments, for example, may take a couple of years depending on how much you\u2019re earning, what type of employer match you have (if any), and what the stock market\u2019s doing in the short-term (jumpcut to Q1 and Q2 2022 *winces*)\u2014but once you hit, say, $120,000, you\u2019ve got enough money invested already to reliably produce $400 per month in income (or, more impressively, $4,800 per year).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">That\u2019s a sizable car payment! Two Equinox memberships! Fifty burrito bowls! (Damn inflation.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">If goals in the \u201cmillions\u201d are daunting and feel unrealistic, incrementalize it: Make your goal your next $30,000, a number that\u2019s representative of a tangible amount of monthly passive income.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" style=\"white-space:pre-wrap;\">You\u2019re probably already closer than you realize to your ideal lifestyle. Mine? Grandpa Joe-style cat naps on a Wednesday, baby.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For every $100 you spend each month, you need roughly $30,000 in invested capital to reproduce it without traditional income. Wait, how did we get here? Cue the \u201cThat escalated quickly\u201d memes. 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